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JCook needs to provide trial access to code 05 Jan 2014 21:18 #11913

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I am evaluating JCook for use in my project and critical thing I'm missing is ability to see the code generated by it.
This is too big risk for me to just pay 45E to check if the code behind is maintanable, useful and easy to extend.

Please consider making possible to generate and download simple components, for example one of the competitors allows dowloading of single-table components - I can check how the code is created but I need multi-table components for any kind of serious project.

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JCook needs to provide trial access to code 05 Jan 2014 22:48 #11917

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Hi and welcome to the community @Ochucki!

I understand your perspective completely but there are good reasons for disallowing downloads as I'm sure you'll understand. That said, there is a component/tutorial that you can download to review some generated by cook: www.j-cook.pro/files/workshop.zip, albeit a year old or more. Despite this, it should give you a better idea of Cook's power and extensibility compared with the one model/controller/view you were allowed from the competitor you mentioned. As someone who's used both services and is affiliated to neither, JCook wins hands down IMHO and I'm pretty confident you'll agree.

BTW in free accounts you can review your test projects in all supported J!Versions via the sandboxes. This is a feature not found elsewhere and probably one of the biggest time savers.

Anyway, best of luck with your projects! if you need anything, there's a very willing, helpful community of enthusiasts and experts alike whom I'm sure will be delighted to help out with any queries you may have.

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JCook needs to provide trial access to code 05 Jan 2014 23:06 #11918

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Thanks for the swift answer!

Of course I do understand that allowing downloads means releasing substantial part of know-how/value of the tool, but without it one cannot really answer the question: "Which tool will help me create website functionality faster/easier?"

I agree 45E is not very large sum compared to most commercial project budgets but I personally cannot justify paying to see that code is not what I need (even if it's good for general use, more extensible, etc).

Other competitor I mentioned allowed me to see where I will have to add my parts, where everything is done, where it is done wrong, how do I repurporse some views, etc.
I admit, I used code generated also as some kind of guidance/tutorial on Joomla's MVC. That can be seen as kind of service to Joomla community - educating how things should be done.

So right now, im a little bit scared looking at amount of files JCook will generate, it looks like feature set is much bigger, but also it might be too hard for me to just cut out parts I dont need. I like it better, but will not gamble - especially with the added risk of 'work in progress' tool - I'm getting critical errors here and there.

So I'm still asking the owners of the project to consider some kind of 'demo' - even static but up to date project that can be checked.
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JCook needs to provide trial access to code 05 Jan 2014 23:10 #11919

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Gez is right on here ... I've used both services as well and JCook wins hands down

Having said that, I do understand wanting to see the code and all I can say is that I've seen it, used it. modified it, and it is as good as you'll find from a "code generator" (which is an understatement once you start using it)

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JCook needs to provide trial access to code 05 Jan 2014 23:27 #11920

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Hi Ochucki, welcome to the community !
You are right, there is no sample component to download, for the moment.

But I am actually writing some docs, and will furnish small forked samples components to illustrate the docs.
Just leave me some time, because yes it is true, there are still some unpleasant issues I try to figure out (and still there will be, while Joomla evolves)

About the quantity of files, it is true... but necessary.
Only FoF is gonna be able to reduce files in a standard way because it has been accepted in the core.

Actually, FoF will reduce your component to ashes !! Are you sure you want it ? lol..
Because with Fof, everything disepears, so you really need to know very well how to code. Cook will be very usefull for FoF, obviously.
But still I cannot speak too much about FoF for the moment. It is long way.
Coding is now a piece of cake
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